Dave Smith's Best Argument Against War (and Neoconservatives)
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Political commentator Dave Smith has been a staunch critic of neoconservatives and their advocacy for military intervention. His skillful defense when facing attacks from Douglas Murray on a recent podcast catapulted him into the national spotlight.
Before I get into his background, let's cover his core argument.
The Hiroshima Bombing
In a May 2024 episode of Part of the Problem, Smith stated,
“The Hiroshima bombing killed 140,000 people, mostly civilians - women, kids, elderly. Neocons say, 'It saved lives by ending the war.' That's a cold-blooded calculus. You don't get to nuke a city and call it mercy. It's a war crime, plain and simple, and we should be ashamed, not proud.”
Dave Smith criticized the justification for the atomic bombing, arguing that it represents a moral failing glossed over by neoconservatives and war hawks who frame it as a necessary act to end World War II.
He contends that the narrative of “necessity” ignores the horror of targeting civilians and sets a dangerous precedent for justifying mass violence.
During a February 2025 discussion, Dave Smith said,
“Hiroshima wasn't just a military target - it was a city full of people who had no say in the war. Neocons love to rewrite history, saying it was the only way to stop Japan. But Japan was already on its knees, and there's evidence they were ready to surrender. We dropped that bomb to flex on the Soviets, not to save lives. It's a stain on our conscience.”
Recently, numerous historians have questioned the necessity of the bombing, pointing to declassified documents suggesting Japan's imminent surrender and the U.S.'s geopolitical motivations in the early Cold War.
Smith also ties this event to neoconservative ideology more broadly, arguing that their willingness to defend the Hiroshima bombing reflects a deeper disregard for human life in pursuit of power.
“Neocons will justify Hiroshima like it's a math problem - 'more lives saved than lost.' That's sociopathic. If you can stomach vaporizing 140,000 civilians, you'll justify anything. That's why they keep pushing new wars.”
The stance that the 'good guys' are entitled to kill civilians to advance a greater good has carried over into subsequent conflicts.
“Every war kills kids - Hiroshima, Vietnam, Iraq, Gaza. If you're not torn up about even one child dying, you're numb. Neocons want us to be numb so they can keep the war machine going. I say we should feel every single loss, because that's what keeps us human.”
Smith said this in a March 2025 episode of Part of the Problem, reflecting on the moral implications of war.
One Child's Death
“If one child dies in a war - whether it's Gaza, Ukraine, or anywhere else - we should feel sad. That's a human life, not a statistic. Neocons act like collateral damage is just the cost of doing business. I say that's a failure of humanity. One dead kid should break your heart and make you question the whole damn war.”
This argument came up in the context of discussing civilian casualties in Gaza, where Smith challenged Douglas Murray's defense of Israel's two-year military assault on Gaza. He argued that neoconservatives often dehumanize victims by focusing on strategic goals over individual lives.
In the same episode, he added,
“The neocons will say, 'Oh, Hamas uses human shields, so it's their fault.' Fine, but if your response kills a kid, you don't get to shrug and move on. You should feel that loss in your bones. If you don't, you've lost your soul.”
Connecting the Two Arguments
“The neocons love their Hitler-Churchill fan fiction. Every bad guy is Hitler - Saddam, Assad, Putin, Iran's leaders - and every war they want is 1939 all over again. They cast themselves as Churchill, the brave defender, while anyone who questions them is an appeaser. It's a tired script to guilt-trip us into war.”
The oversimplification distorts reality, most modern conflicts don't mirror the unique scale and ideology of Nazi Germany, nor do they require the same response.
“Zelenskyy isn't Churchill, and Putin isn't Hitler. Ukraine isn't the Sudetenland. But the neocons push this narrative to make you think if we don't send billions and risk World War III, we're letting the Nazis win. It's emotional blackmail, not reason.”
On X in early May 2025, Smith doubled down, posting, “Neocons see Hitler in every shadow - Iran, China, even TikTok. Meanwhile, they're Churchill in their own heads, cigar and all. It's a delusion to keep the war machine humming.”
He's argued this tactic, rooted in post-9/11 fearmongering, exploits historical memory to rally support for policies that primarily serve the military-industrial complex, not American interests.
Dave Smith argues that neocons frequently invoke Chamberlain - known for his policy of appeasement toward Hitler in the 1930s, most notably with the Munich Agreement of 1938 - to demonize any opposition to their war-driven policies and to frame non-intervention as cowardice or moral failure.
“The neocons love to drag Chamberlain into every argument. If you don't want to bomb Iran or send another billion to Ukraine, you're Neville Chamberlain, handing over the Sudetenland. It's a cheap trick to make you feel like a spineless traitor for wanting peace.”
He emphasized that this comparison is a deliberate tactic to paint anti-war voices as weak, ignoring the complexities of modern conflicts that don't align with the lead-up to World War II.
“If you question Israel's actions or America's role in escalating tensions, the neocons say you're Chamberlain, appeasing Hamas or Iran. It's nonsense. Not every situation is Munich 1938, and not every enemy is Hitler waiting to take over the world.”
Smith argued this framing oversimplifies issues, forcing a false dichotomy where the only options are aggressive intervention or shameful surrender.
On X in late April 2025, Smith posted, “Neocons call anyone who disagrees with them Chamberlain, like we're all one bad handshake from Nazi tanks rolling in. Newsflash: it's 2025, not 1938. Stop with the history lessons and start with some common sense.”
What do you think?
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Comments (3)
One has to wonder, is meoconservitism a dying breed? Looking at Trump‘s current administration with people like Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth and formally Mike Waltz it seems like maybe and then maybe not. I guess only time will tell how Trump and his administration will handle affairs. Your article was well researched and well written. I got a lot out of reading it.
It's true. Any new target of the war machine is Hitler, anyone voicing opposition is Chamberlain, or as Reagan said, a "bleeding-heart liberal." A laughable hippie. The war machine is good for business, bad for humanity, and there isn't much truth behind what they're doing. However, what happened pre-dates Hiroshima, by quite a bit. I'd start with Sherman's March in the Civil War, which was a very, very similar situation. The South had less money, fewer supplies, but they just wouldn't quit. They were literally starving, with some of their soldiers turning into crazed berserkers by the end, literally letting out Rebel Yells to strike fear as they fought. The war had to end, and standard battlefield tactics weren't cutting it. So their spirit had to be broken. Sherman killed, burned, raped, and pillaged his way across the South, attacking innocent civilians in order to break the will and spirit of the people. Again, before Hiroshima, look at Germany. Read Vonnegut's "Slaughter-House Five", a fictionalized version of the bombing of Dresden, which he lived through. As Vonnegut says, and as we knew, Dresden wasn't a military target any more than Hiroshima was. The factory they had didn't make munitions, it made malt syrup, used as a baby food. It was a beautiful city. But we bombed it so hard it created a firestorm, in which flames sucked up all the oxygen in the surrounding area. The city was full of charred bodies. It was part of a the campaign to break the spirit of the Germans. And before Hiroshima, we did similar things to the Japanese and their cities. Few cities were left in Japan before we dropped the bomb. We bombed the ever-loving shit out of Japan, killing not soldiers, but civilians. The idea was to not defeat the armies, but to punish the country as a whole until they were either too demoralized to continue to resist, or dead. They still hadn't, so we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, and when they still didn't surrender, we hit Nagasaki. Don't forget, the Civil War started with a picnic. Both sides thought it would be over in weeks, and civilians were pretty excited by it. They literally gathered in the surrounding area to watch. How sporting! Let's see how our boys do! LIke a boxing match. It took 4 years to learn that this wasn't fun, it wasn't arm wrestling, it was bloodshed and carnage and suffering, and they didn't understand until everyone was involved. My father-in-law, a Southerner, still doesn't get it. I've heard him say, "I just don't see how you can fight your own kin like that. Your own people. Burning houses down, shooting women and kids." It's because he, the people at the time, and other people who are pro-war, don't understand that war is when diplomacy ends. You never want war. Because the generals know that the real goal isn't beating your enemy on the battlefield, taking prisoners. It's killing them. All of them. Any you leave alive will remember, and be your enemies later, raising more children to also be your enemy. You want them all gone. Admiral Halsey in WWII knew this. As he said from his ship, watching our forces attack Japan, after we had begun winning the war in the Pacific, "Soon Japanese will only be spoken in Hell." That turned out to not be true, but that was his goal.
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