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Talk to each other before you kill each other

A discussion prompted by Anita Lasker-Wallfisch

By Rachel DeemingPublished 6 months ago Updated 6 months ago 5 min read
Anita Lasker-Wallfisch at 13, playing the cello

It's strange how life send echoes to greet you. Have you ever had a thought or a discussion and then days later, found something that supports that view or which validates how you view things, taken from the wider world?

You're thinking that my phone has been listening to me, aren't you? That I am being swayed by algorithms? But I don't mean through the ads that appear on my feeds or the "You might like...?" suggestions.

An echo, as I call them, doesn't have to be something deep: it can be a motif that runs through a day; or a phrase from a book which reiterates an idea that you chatted about with a friend over breakfast; or someone repeating words to you that you heard from some other source only days before.

For example (and I'll admit this is a trite one, but it demonstrates it well), David Hasselhoff was a motif that continually came up in one of my work days. Firstly, we had a customer who, I kid you not, was called Michael Knight. Then the radio mentioned The Hoff, I can't remember the why, but there he was again! Finally, when communicating with my boss about a customer waiting for a visit from him and how tight my boss's day was becoming and did he think he'd make it in time, my boss sent a GIF of David Hasselhoff running across a beach in full Baywatch mode, the inference being that he, my boss, would be the hero coming to the rescue.

This didn't support anything that I was thinking on a deeply philosophical level but it was strangely coincidental, to the point where even my colleague noted it, like it was a theme, a David Hasselhoff themed work day. Everyone should have a Hoff day or Day of the Hoff or similar!

For me, this happens a lot. There are threads that, like a spider's web, mesh us together, whether we can see them or not and sometimes, they vibrate and send out their reverberations and if, if, you are sensitive enough you will feel them or in this instance if you are listening, you will hear them.

And so, to Anita Lasker-Wallfisch.

Today, I saw a clip on Facebook from an Auschwitz survivor called Anita Lasker-Wallfisch who is celebrating her 100th birthday. She was being interviewed by the BBC. I didn't know who she was although I am a fan of classical music but there was something about her face that made me stop and listen to the clip instead of scrolling on by.

Anita Lasker-Wallfisch taken from https://www.topfundsoehne.de/ts/de/service/aktuelles/veranstaltungen/2019/131293.html

It was very brief and in it, she talks of how she was saved from extermination in Auschwitz by the fact that she could play the cello and could be selected for the orchestra. Primo Levi had already led me to these orchestras in his book If this is a man, a first hand account of his time, also as a prisoner in Auschwitz.

It saved her life, her playing, her music and her inclusion in the orchestra, and she has lived a very long life indeed.

The interviewer then went on to ask her what would she say to those who still, to this day, would seek to hurt others and she simply and emphatically said:

Talk to each other before you kill each other

I'm just going to leave that to sit with you for a minute.

Here. Have some soothing music:

It's a simple enough idea, isn't it? It shouldn't really take too much to do it, should it? To sit down and to talk?

It hit me like an arrow: in its directness, in its wisdom, in its succinctness, in its simplicity.

And it echoed thoughts that I have been having recently about our ability as a race to communicate with each other. I don't think that we know how to do it effectively anymore. What do you mean? I hear you cry! The world is full to the brim of people talking! And to an extent that is true. You can be talked at by many without much interaction involved on your part at all. Just open a screen and watch a reel.

But is that really talking? I don't think so. That's speaking but I would argue that talking involves something which is in even rarer supply and that is the ability to listen.

And therein, as Shakespeare would say, lies the rub.

I think that we live in a world where it is very easy to shout the odds to try and make ourselves heard but where are the listeners? Where are the people who reflect on what we are saying? Talk is a two-way thing, I think and is built on respect. Both people must be prepared to do a balance of talking and listening. This, however, I am prepared to admit is a very rare occurrence.

There seems to be a distinct lack of respect man-to-man and it's only getting worse and more blatant and it's not just on social media.

Many times I've had conversations and been mid sentence only to have people talk over the top of me. I've also had people who I can tell are less than engaged in what I am saying, their attention focused elsewhere, eyes drifting and posture indicating restlessness. I wouldn't mind but they're not overly interesting themselves; however, I exercise courtesy in my interactions with them, despite my inner need to escape.

It is something of which I am very conscious, this lack of listening and this need to be heard. Anita Lasker-Wallfisch summarised how I have been feeling about the world: that we need to talk. To sit and get to know each other as people. Not as other people, people who are different to us, but as people who share the same space, who share the same needs, who share the same aspirations, share the same hopes for our children. So much is made of division and yet, more and more I am aware of the way that we are all linked, that the world is just one big community and that if we could all band together, we could achieve so much more.

It's a simple idea. I'm not naïve. I know that in order for any talks to work, the attitude has to be present to want that change to happen. Selfishness must be left at the door as must personal posturing. Leaders have to look out wider than their fanbase to augment changes and we all want different things and we all want things to work the best for us. Which is naïve. And selfish. And unsustainable. Because we can't have it all...unless we're happy to let someone else suffer.

If there's one thing that I've learnt about life it's that it's made up of give and take and that applies to a whole abundance of things including talking.

We should listen to the wise, to our elders, to the people who have lived through multiple crises as despite their failing eyesight, their lenses are the clearest and I think Anita Lasker-Wallfisch with her own personal history would know better than most.

So let's start a wave. Take the time to listen. It's important on so many levels. And you know, you might just learn something that may benefit you in some way.

But you'll never know unless you listen.

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  • Dharrsheena Raja Segarran6 months ago

    Wooohooooo congratulations on your Leaderboard placement! 🎉💖🎊🎉💖🎊

  • Test6 months ago

    Respect is one of those core values that should be a universal understanding but sadly seems to be a "choice" for some. Well said Rachel!! Congrats on honourable mention on the leaderboard this week!

  • Caitlin Charlton6 months ago

    That's it right there. 'if we can all band together, we could achieve so much more'. We need more deep thinkers like yourself. The ones who actually slow down to notice the things that are odd and harmful to the human race. Like never listening, talking over each other, and wanting to escape by showing zero eye contact. I am going to be honest. I don't like the world we live in, that's why I am running away from it — finding things from the past to help explain the things that have been covered up or taken away. I don't want to be blind anymore to what could be. So thank you for writing this and allowing the old to teach you something new, or maybe something that was covered up before. Beautifully done, Rachel ❤️

  • D.K. Shepard6 months ago

    Very well said, Rachel. That respect is so essential in productive and balanced conversation!

  • Laura DePace6 months ago

    As always, a thoughtful, thought-provoking piece. Your writing so often gives me something to think about! I just spent a few days with a very "talky" group of people. Listening? Not so much. But I often find myself trying so hard to make myself heard, that I forget to listen to what others are saying. Thanks for the reminder.

  • Andy Potts6 months ago

    Nicely done. For me, it ties into the rise of anti-intellectualism (Asimov's 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'). Implicitly, anti-intellectualism says that nobody else's words are of any greater value than my own (and mine, by definition, are more interesting to me and should therefore be interesting to you). To some extent, a site like Vocal weaponises the process: do many of us read more than we publish? And, as the barriers to publication get lower (arguably a good thing, since more voices can be heard), we drown in noise. On a slight tangent, one of my minor fascinations is trying to work out when progress came to an end. Look back to the 19th century, and you can trace a broad arc of people determine to take the next step. Sometimes it's petty: your town built a new town hall, so we're going to build a bigger, fancier one (a common theme in Lancashire as the mill towns grew prosperous). But it feels like we don't do that now. We want cheaper, we want good enough, aspirational is a put-down. I have a few theories, but I'm curious as to what prompted the change in attitude.

  • Calvin London6 months ago

    So true, Rachel, people don't know how to communicate anymore. We have lost the social skills of communication, a large part due to the intrusion of mobile phones and social media. What wise words from someone who should know all about it. Thank you for sharing.

  • I have always said that there's nothing that can't be solved my talking. An open mature discussion. There's no need for wars. But yea, people just don't/can't listen I think another reason why is because attention span is very low these days, mine included. And that's why people kinda zone out

  • Caroline Craven6 months ago

    Yeah, I feel like listening is a dying art form. It seems that those who shout the loudest get heard. Totally agree though, at some we are going to have to wake up and start listening again. Thought this was a cracking piece.

  • Great work, Rachel! I want to touch on a few different levels here. You have several interesting topics going on in this one piece. I like how you started out with the echo that pulled my interest in I like how you set it all up to eventually lead up to the main topic of this piece. You used Anita Lasker-Wallfischas somewhat a catalyst or a go between to get from the echo to that final main topic of listening. You did this also smoothly and expertly. I enjoyed reading every single word of this piece and I got a lot from it. I learned a little bit about that historical figure, I got to chuckle a little Bit about David Hasselhoff, and eventually I sat in reflection about communicating and listening. This is one of the best things I have read this week. Thank you very much for this communication and for giving me an opportunity to listen to what you have to say.

  • Jay Kantor6 months ago

    BritBud - I never learn anything by just listening to myself.

  • Sean A.6 months ago

    So much truth! It feels like most humans have had little capacity for listening, but now that most of our interactions are filtered through machines, it’s even more distorted. Great job!

  • A. J. Schoenfeld6 months ago

    Wise words indeed. Another great story worth reading. There's a name for the phenomenon you began this piece with. I can never remember it but I'm going to call it the Hoff Effect from now on. I couldn't agree more that we all need to listen better. I went to lunch a few years ago 4 separate times with 4 different friends. After I got home from the last lunch I realized that at the first 3, the friend I had been with had spent the entire time talking about herself. The final friend had spent the entire time asking me about myself and listening while I talked. I didn't realize how much I needed to feel heard until someone actively listened to me. Since then, I try to emulate that one friend as often as I can. I often wonder how much better we would all communicate if everyone learned to listen the way she does.

  • John Cox6 months ago

    Listening matters! Fully engaging with others rather than labeling them ‘other’ would do the world a lot of good. Great essay, Rachel!

  • Melissa Ingoldsby6 months ago

    This was very beautifully written and it has such an important message! Top story material! We need this message out

  • Shirley Belk6 months ago

    I'm so glad I read this! Brilliant and so worthy!

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