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Comment much?

How I feel about the comments section on Vocal: its benefits and its pitfalls

By Rachel DeemingPublished 2 years ago β€’ 9 min read
Top Story - March 2024
Comment much?
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One of the things that I really enjoy about Vocal, amongst others, is the comments' section. I think we are all gratified when people read our work and even more so when someone leaves a comment about what they've read.

It's taken me a while to embrace this part of Vocal. At first, I was hesitant and a little wary, only offering a "Great read" or a "Well done". However, as time has gone by, I've realised as a recipient of such comments, that they don't really tell you a lot about how that person feels on reading your story. As a result of this epiphany, whilst I always try to engage with the text, I now try and ensure that I engage in the comments section too, offering insight and approval for the things that I've liked.

I don't offer criticism - if I don't like something, I don't comment.

We all want to know how our work has been received and so, I like to expand on that if I can for the benefit of the writer. Sometimes, someone has already said it for me but sometimes, I sit and format my thoughts and responses to glean what it was that I liked and offer it up for the perusal of its creator i.e. the writer.

Likewise, when I receive comments that are equally as insightful, I get a buzz. I also love a bit of banter and laugh out loud at where comments go - into the irreverent; the philosophical; the surreal; the confessional.

I am able to do this because I generally have engaged readers. They read and reflect in the same way that I do and due to this level of engagement, they have become my friends. We have a relationship of sorts through this platform that I very much enjoy and value. I look forward to seeing their input and have witty and enlightening exchanges on a daily basis.

But recently, I have noticed that there are some who merely use the comments' box as a means to draw attention to themselves. Nothing wrong with this, I hear you say, but I have a problem with this really.

My problem is, is that I don't think that these people have read my stuff. And that irks me.

Why write a comment on my piece if you've not read it?

To be honest, I think it shows bad manners and is really quite rude.

I like to challenge them if I have repeat offenders like I'm a comedian in a room full of hecklers. I don't think there's anything wrong in asking them to quantify what they liked, do you?

You know, I'm not expecting great detail. In fact, I'm not expecting anything really. I like getting detailed comments about what you've enjoyed especially about my creation, whatever it is. But, you know, just something that provides a bit of validation is sweet. So with that said, this is what I don't like:

Don't just use someone else's thread to draw attention to yourself.

I've had a person who has been consistently commenting on my work over the past few weeks. Not just mine...but let's not rush ahead. In this story, I'm going to regale you with the exchanges I've had with this member of Vocal and I'd love to know what you think about it all.

It started with this exchange on my story, Daffodils:

thank you for your comment! It seems that you are encouraging to attract visitors and increase the number of subscribers. This is a great step to boost audience engagement with your page. Keep encouraging people to subscribe and share your page, and you just might have an even greater positive impact on the world! πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘

A curious comment, I thought so I addressed it:

Um, I haven't commented, you have. Aren't those my lines? I'm confused by this.

I'm not encouraging to attract visitors - just writing stuff for people to read if they so choose.

I hope I have a positive impact on the world. Tell me - what do you think reading this story brought to you today? Was it uplifting? Did it inspire you? I see you haven't subscribed so I'm thinking it probably didn't hit the mark for you although you liked it...But then you left this mysterious comment and I am baffled now.

Any explanation would be gratefully received. Thanks, Abo!

He didn't deign to reply to this so I'll never know.

But it didn't end there. Up he popped again on The Rubbish Collector but with a different opener, although I was soon to realise that this was a favourite:

It's a wonderful story. You're the best. Keep subscribing, like, and comment. You're amazing. I love you. Thank you for watching

I decided to engage again as I must have something to offer if he'd returned to my work, right? And it would appear that I made an impression - the "L" word led me to believe that. Heady stuff indeed for a middle-aged woman.

So I responded thus:

Abo, that is very kind but tell me what you liked about it specifically. That's what would make me feel wonderful.

I think it's a bit premature for declarations of love but I thank you for the sentiment.

Also, what is it that I'm watching? I appreciate your gratitude but if you could clarify, I'd appreciate it.

All very polite. He came back with:

It is an amazing story about a snowman. This is my joy. Your work is excellent. I love you

Let's address those statements in turn: It's not about a snowman. Despite this being erroneous, it brought him joy (I can't argue with that). My work may or may not be excellent but as I think he's not read it, I'm going to take this with a pinch of salt. He loves me - but can I believe him? I want to so much, reader, but he's sending me mixed signals!

I replied with some gravitas:

Abo, it is as I feared.

He replied:

You are very kind. Work hard and continue to achieve your goals. Thank you very much. We wish you a happy life

Nice, eh? But random.

Dharrsheena then intervened in our exchange with much laughter thus:

I cannotttttt, I'm dying here!! 🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣

This has been known to happen quite frequently and I love her for it. She may actually encourage me in these exchanges just a tad and I rise to the challenge of it admirably to please her. Her name is Dharrsheena Raja Segarran and you can check her out here.

The exchange then ended with this coup de grace:

She continued✌️☺️

To which, I had no answer.

But it did not end here. No.

The Trail of the Snail was also commented on and I was gratified to see that I had sustained his readership, dubious though it might be.

Same opener - blah, blah, blah - wonderful...best...amazing...love...watching

I replied:

Abo, tell me what you liked. You put this comment on a story yesterday as well as that of others but I don't think you read my stuff at all. So how would you know it was a wonderful story.

His response:

Orchard snail: It has a bright yellow shell with a black stripe.

Burgundy snail: prized for its soft flesh and reddish shell.

Would it surprise you to learn that this was not what the story was about, although I'll give him credit, there's a story there, I think.

But before I replied, he commented again with this:

Terrible story

Gasp! I was shellshocked (excuse the pun)! Not only had he not read my story but he had the audacity to criticise the story that he thought I'd written. I mean, this guy has some nerve.

I couldn't let that go so I replied:

Interesting comment, Abo. Not about this story though. And with regard to the terrible story comment, the author of the one about the orchard snail and the burgundy snail is likely to be very upset about your harsh criticism.

To which he responded:

Who is the best? Sweet story

To which I showed my confusion with:

?

And he finished the exchange thus:

πŸ“βœŒοΈ

Dharrsheena then intervened again, much to my delight with:

I live for these comments 🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣

And he replied to finish:

Yes, you are the best. You like and follow me, haha

I am perplexed. I thought I was the best. But now, Dharrsheena's the best? I mean, I'm not going to argue the point but he is a duplicitous rogue, isn't he? I obviously cannot trust his opinion.

And this is where it takes a dark turn, reader.

It happened on Endurance, a story I published this week. There he was again with his smooth-talking opener:

It's a wonderful story. You're the best. Keep subscribing, like, and comment. You're amazing. I love you. Thank you for watching

This opener has been used on the following in no particular order:

Endurance

A Shocking Discovery

The Trail of the Snail

The Rubbish Collector

This was my reply on Endurance:

You know, Abo, it's been a few days since I've heard from you. How have you been? Concentrating on your writing, I hope? I don't want to cast doubt on your intentions but just as a polite enquiry, can you tell me what it was that you liked about my story please? Our interaction so far has been superficial, focused on lots of effusive praise from you as well as declarations of love (which I have noticed are not just reserved for me - naughty!) and so, as with others, let's engage with a detailed discussion of my work and I will return the favour. I notice that Judey Kalchik has already left her mark on the comment box on one of your stories - something to do with AI and content? Surely that can't be true? I am sure that there is as much variety in your writing and your authorial voice as there is in your comment choice.

To which he replied:

This is your work, Rachel. You are a very polite person. I have read all of your stories, and I have respect. I will respond to this comment of yours, and with respect and appreciation to you. Yes, this content is a title. I am Abu Al-Khawaja, and I write books without artificial intelligence. I hope you believe me and I do not want more discussions. I write a story and sell it to anyone for a full $150. This is a job, Rachel

I then answered:

Abo, thanks for your comment. I notice that you have addressed everything except a specific comment about my story. I don't want to be combative. I'd just like to know, to engage and find out your opinion based on the writing itself.

Give me a line from it that's not the first one you read or the title.

What did you think of the twist, if there was one?

Who was your favourite character?

Was there a description you particularly liked.

If I didn't know better, I'd presume that the only reason you put a comment on my work which is the same as you put on many others' work (cut and paste is such a time-saver, isn't it?), is just so that your stuff would be read. Not that there is anything wrong with that, per se, but at least be a little less disingenuous about it.

He replied:

πŸ–•πŸ“

I will be reporting this last one, readers as I do believe that that is the bird, the middle finger, an insult. But not before I placed it here for your scrutiny.

Luckily, this is an isolated exchange, which I have to say, I have found quite entertaining! And with regard to the AI, I am more inclined to believe Judey Kalchik than I am this person.

And so, to conclude, I would like to thank sincerely all of the generous commenters on this platform, who encourage and highlight and engage; who are curious and respectful and intelligent; who fill my days with humour and confidence and thoughtfulness; whose comments have brought me to their work and their skills and talent as writers and ultimately, allowed me to engage with some pretty fine humans.

You know who you are, all of you. I thank you all from the bottom of my heart.

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  • Sunita Biswas9 months ago

    hi this is Sunita here

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  • Ameer Bibi2 years ago

    Congratulations for top story πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰. "You have an incredible knack for bringing out the beauty in everything you do. Your passion is infectious!

  • This is such a great mix of humour Rachel! You tell this as both a story and a warning, and lines like "I'm not going to argue the point but he is a duplicitous rogue, isn't he?" had me smiling. It does bug me that there seem to be so many bot or spam accounts, and apart from reporting there isn't much that can be done. So i applaud the effort and time you took to go after them. It's quite an icky feeling actually, that your work has been looked at or viewed by someone in that frame of mind, but remember that there are a ton of real readers out here thankfully:)

  • Seeing how the dynamics of online interactions develop and expose the peculiarities as well as the complexity of human behavior in digital places is intriguing.

  • Lamar Wiggins2 years ago

    OMG! That was entertaining. Sorry that you took one for the team. Your investigations saved us all time and patience... Thank you, Rachel. And congrats!!!

  • Your obnoxious interlocutor was likely using AI to write his responses and stories, but, then again, who knows? The robot is stupid because it must be told what to do and knows nothing but what the user puts into it. Human stupidity, however, is usually the result of us thinking we know better than we do. The Dunning-Kruger effect: some of us exhibit it, while others suffer from it, and the former is not aware of the trouble they cause the latter! Our hotshot ($150 a story! Wow!) may very well believe his writing impeccable, and really be that awful. But... again, who knows? Maybe the corporations that use AI to study our data and manipulate us into buying useless garabage or government propaganda are trying to find a way to make the AI obnoxious so they can use it for other nefarious psychological warfare purposes. That puts us writers right there on the front lines of the psywar, doesn't it? Certain literary practical jokes might be a good way to throw a few monkeywrenches into those gears... but I should not wish to say too much, as it might ruin the joke! Of course, you may think me crazy... but even if that's the case, I say unto thee once again: Well-wrought! Write on!

  • Anna 2 years ago

    Congrats on Top Story! And yes, there will always be people like that out there...

  • Lana V Lynx2 years ago

    This is hilarious. I admire you for staying on point with him. Also, I wonder who is willing to pay him $150 per story? β€œIt’s a job”? Sometimes I think that people from other countries come to Vocal in the hopes of making quick easy bucks (good luck with that) and spend time on setting up AI to crawl the platform and drop unrelated flattering comments where they think they will build engagement. Oh well, they’ll learn their lesson soon. Thanks for the laugh, Rachel.

  • Andy Potts2 years ago

    I wonder if you've had an impact at higher levels? I noticed that a fair few comments on my stories have been deleted (generally of the 'Have you ever been scammed? I didn't believe it was possible until ...' variety). I suppose Abo's undying love is harder to screen out. Just because it's nonsense doesn't mean it couldn't be genuine nonsense, right? But while the comment leaderboard is the closest we have to incentives for readers (and we all want readers aplenty) I fear we may have to put up with incoherent comments for a while to come.

  • Greg Seebregts2 years ago

    Well, that's one way to deal with a troll. :D I'm fortunate enough that I haven't had to do this...yet, and I hope I never end up with a troll in my comments section (I've probably jinxed myself here). All that said, you handled him well!

  • Test2 years ago

    Yeah, I've met this guy. I don't care enough to bite back. I read and thank the comments that actually make sense. I understand your motivation, it can be annoying and time-wasting.

  • Thank you for your attendance. I am pleasured to be writing with your work. I hope you believe me. Have a happy life.

  • This is actually hilarious πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ That Abu makes me laugh with their ridiculous comments anyway… but this whole dialogue you had is just next level πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Oh my! Thanks for writing this… we all need more laughter in our lives πŸ₯Ήβ€οΈπŸ™

  • Yayyyyyy soooo happy you got a Top Story for this! Congratulations! πŸŽ‰πŸ’–πŸŽŠπŸŽ‰πŸ’–πŸŽŠ

  • B2 years ago

    Oh, wow. I had the same person comment similar weird things on my pieces, too. The "thanks for watching" always throws me off. I don't even bother responding. As for the comment sections being devoid of useful comments, I think some people are hoping to get 'top commenter' on the weekly Leader Board, and aren't actually caring to engage, just to get the prize money. Or at least, that's what I've concluded. Regardless, I thank them, because I'm not certain. But it does frustrate me when they say 'great piece' and I'm staring at the comment wondering why they even said it. :/ Is it that hard to write a few more words explaining why it was great? Even if it's just 'the title drew me in', wonderful! Now we're getting somewhere. Is that so hard? πŸ˜…

  • Vocal Society (Vo-ciety): "How many laughing emojis is enough laughing emojis?" Dharrsheena: "Yes"

  • Thavien Yliaster2 years ago

    Comment much? Yes, yes I do. Should I? Probably not. Will I continue to do so? Who knows? It's like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop. The world may never know. Thank You for making an article about this, Rachel. I feel like it belongs up there with Keila Aartila's article about no link bombers/bombing. That guy also got on my nerves a tad bit cause he commented practically the same thing on my herd of unicorn stories. Dharrsheena came to the rescue. Though, lowkey, K was just planning on not replying to his comment cause I could smell the fakeness a mile away. Speaking of AI and theft content, I saw this video done by Kyle Hill and a lot of content thieves are in Russia, Pakistan, Albania, Cutter, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, UAE, and even quite a bit in Canada and few in the U.S. Most people that do this AI type of behavior are content international actors. Not like movie stars, but You get the point. I'd say don't feed the trolls. Sadly, though, I've gone through not feeding trolls and even had on troll not just trying to get my attention on my content but on other people's content too. When people are desperate for attention they do what they can. Plus, after reading this article I made sure to screenshot the comments made by that person, along with Dharrsheena's response, and I'm also glad that Vocal's sending out email notifications again about receiving comments on our stories. I really like having that email notification because it helps provide as a 2ndary proof of evidence if You ever need it, especially to report bad actors. Receipts are receipts, and I like to keep proof of purchase(s).

  • Jazzy 2 years ago

    This is a great article. Very well done. I love the part about fishing in Antarctica. Please remember to rate and subscribe. I am definitely not AI. PS- I couldn't help myself. This was such a wild story from start to finish and I loved how you engaged this commenter!

  • JBaz2 years ago

    Oh, I have had the pleasure of this and other individual commenting on my work. I laughed so hard and can Picture Dharr getting her two cents on. Glad you wrote it and hopefully one day this will stop. Then again it does add a certain spice in one’s day to read such AI responses. I will leave you with this : You the best and are beautiful love all you write this is good story/poem/ article? What ever it is ( I have t read it) I am sure is good stuff. Please read all stories of mine and tip with heart or cash . Ai

  • Christy Munson2 years ago

    I'm dying to add a flippant Comment here, something that sounds only too AI and click-baity, but I can't even! Great TS, and congratulations. I read through so many of those exchanges and was shaking my head (confusion, wonder, disappointment, but mostly confusion) and of course I was absolutely loving all of Dharrsheena's hilarious Comments. You handled all of that so well. I get some of those "check out my stuff" Comments and I just ignore them assuming they're click-bait. Crazy stuff. Really takes away from the thoughtful engagement made possible by Comments. I, for one, appreciate a legit Comment every time, good or bad. But I'm over the AI/click-bait nonsense. Again, congratulations on the much deserved TS!

  • Gerard DiLeo2 years ago

    And all this time I thought it was a wonderful story and I was the best. Yep. I’m in his/her queue.

  • Cathy holmes2 years ago

    There it is. Congrats on the TS.

  • Paul Stewart2 years ago

    Lols...back to say Congrats, chum, on Top Storydom!

  • TheSpinstress 2 years ago

    Abo loved me too at one point, but seems to have moved on. :( Thank goodness you got a hilarious story out of wasting so much time on these senseless exchanges with him.

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