the lost dialogues of Philosophocles - 3
Agonistes - little by little

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the lost dialogue of Philosophocles
the lost dialogue of Philosophocles - 2
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Agonistes Part Three - (Little by Little)
Philosophocles - Agonistes! Good fellow, you came early. Most fortunate timing. The sculptor Polykleitos will arrive soon to select one of our fine stone blocks for his next great work.
Agonistes - What splendid fortune. I saw his statue of the Amazon when I visited Ephesus. The gift of the gods must lie within his hands.
Quarry man - Come quickly, Philosophocles, Polykleitos's model has arrived. He will measure and mark a stone this day!
Go. I will quickly follow.
The gift of the gods to Polykleitos, my good Agonistes, is mathematics. This, as with any good philosopher, lies within his capacious mind.
I do not understand. When I have viewed artists at work they have always used their hands to draw, carve or shape the clay. Do they use mathematics unseen as they work?
Polykleitos formulated an artistic canon that uses mathematics to achieve symmetry in his sculptures. He applies the Pythagorean theorem so that all parts of the body in his sculptures create balance in the eyes of all who witness them. For example, the canon ensures that the head is neither too large or small in relation to its body, the arms are proportionate to the torso just as the finger's length to the size of the hands and so on. You will see him take measurements as he draws on the stone and the carvers here at the quarry will cut the rough shape under his close direction.
He uses geometry?
Let me give you an example. How do you think he determines the ideal length of each finger on the hand?
Does he not measure his own hand or the hand of a model?
An excellent assumption, Agonistes. If his goal was to replicate the figure of a man, he could simply take several lengths of cord to determine lengths of statue's hands in relation to his arms, measure the circumference of his chest and abdomen, carefully take his height etc. to faithfully recreate his model. But what if he wished to carve Apollo or Aphrodite? How could he use a man or woman model to create the statue of a god or goddess without committing blasphemy?
I see your point, Philosophocles. But unless the gods appear to him how might he copy their sacred images?
That is why he created the canon; to use mathematics with which the gods created and govern all things to realize the ideal form or inspiration for humankind since we are but poor reflections of the gods themselves. Polykeitos has often said, Perfection comes about little by little through many numbers.
But I still do not understand how it is done save for measuring the gods themselves.
Do you know how to calculate the length of the diagonal, Agonistes?
Of course. If I add the squares of two sides, they equal the diagonal squared. The square root of that number, therefore, is the length of the diagonal.
Very good! Now imagine the length of the distal phalange of the little finger is the same as each side of the square. By calculating the diagonal of the square Polykeitos can determine the length of the middle phalange. Using the middle phalange as the side of the square he does the same again to determine the length of the Proximal phalange. Now he has the measurements to replicate the ideal for carving the god's pinky.
But he has done all this work to determine the length of each joint in the smallest part of the god's anatomy! Must he do this for every joint and sinew, every arm, leg and torso and for the nipples as well as the pudendum for every statue he carves?
He only needs to determine the correct measurements for every part of the divine anatomy once. Then he records these measurements using knots in a cord.
But I must apologize, Agonistes. I see the model enters the quarry even now. I must ensure that my fellow quarry men are careful not damage it. I will return soon and escort you to the stones that he will inspect that you may see his process for yourself.
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End Notes...
1) Polykleitos was an ancient Greek sculptor active in the 5th century BCE. He is considered one of the most important sculptors of classical antiquity and greatly influenced both the Greek and Roman sculptors who followed.
2) Artistic canon - Ancient Greek Κανών (Kanon) measuring rod, standard. Many numbers - Polykleitos created a theory of ideal human proportions (now lost to the world), meaning a statue should be composed of clearly delineated parts all related to one another by mathematical formulas to create balance in the eyes of the beholders. Its main principle is expressed by the Greek word symmetria and the Hippocratic principles of isonomia (equilibrium) and rhythmos. Philosophocles likely included this in his Agonistes dialogue to highlight his emphasis of balance achieved through both physical and intellectual labors. At the very heart of his philosophy, the artisan laborer practices and exemplifies both the physical and intellectual pursuits of the ideal.
3) Distal, middle and proximal phalanges (see diagram below from the Medical Art Library):

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Comments (7)
This piece is a brilliant example of teaching through storytelling. By embedding geometric principles and the Pythagorean theorem into dialogue, you make complex ideas digestible and engaging.
This chapter was a great read that made me think about art in a really deep, philosophical way. The biggest surprise was learning what Polykleitos's "gift of the gods" actually meant. It wasn't some kind of magic; it was pure math—a solid, reliable system that became the basis for all his art. The character Philosophocles did an excellent job proving this point.
Another satisfying installment, my friend! Never even once thought about how a sculptor creates. So, that in itself was intriguing. No math equals us not moving too far past cavemen, lol.
Well-wrought! Loving this series, John! If not for working-class philosophers like Philosophocles, history might think we just philosophize to get OUT of work, eh? Everybody can't be Marx, I guess... hehe.
Congratulations on this TS! Still think you should teach Philosophy these articles are even fun to read. Good job.
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Whoaaaa, the way Polykleitos used mathematics is mindblowing!